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Friday, September 02, 2005
   
       IE7 Beta Chat transcript from today
Today, there was an  interesting chat regarding IE7.  Since we were specifically told that the  information in the chat was not under NDA, I'm including the transcript from the  chat.  These are the questions and answers from the  chat.
 Jason  Watters (Expert): Hi, I am Jason Watters, a  Program Manager on the Internet Explorer team.
 Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert): Hello, I am Anurag Jain, a  Program Manager in the Internet Explorer team. Glad to be here!!
 Vishu (Expert):  Hi, I am Vishu Gupta, developer in the IE team.
 SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Are we likely to see a new build released before a  Beta 2 release?
 A: Also, we will be dropping Longhorn/Vista builds  about every month although some times it may take a bit longer.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Internet Explorer's webpage rendering speed is  extreamly slow compare to other web browsers. Do you have any plan to reduce  this rendering speed just like Opera?
 A: For performance there are a coupel of things to  check. The Antiphishing support in the  first beta on XP SP2 may be having a slight side effect, this will be addressed  later. You should also check you do not have any extensions installed that might  be effecting performance. This is obviously somethign that we will continue to  work on throughout the project.
Dave Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):
Dave Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):
Q: will active desktop be added for the x64 release of  ie7
 A: No plans to supply Active Desktop.
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: Does anyone else think the reload button should be  on the left and not right of the address bar (or be movable)
 A: Thanks for the feedback. We have concentrated on  putting the infrastructure in place for Beta1 and moving forward, will make sure  that we build a great user experience. Plans for beta1 do not reflect our  commitment to great user experience.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Will IE7 be available for Windows Server 2003 SP1  ?
 A: Yes. We expect to have beta support for that  version later in the project.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will a download manager be included in IE7 two of  the competitors for IE being FireFox and Opera both have download managers built  in the browser?
 A: A download manager will not be included in the IE7  release.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Wy are 64 and 32 bit IE versions in  Vista?
 A: We include both for backwards compatability, such  as 32 bit plugins that might not be available.
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Have there been any issues with IE&7 through a  proxy? I have mine on one system hitting 98%cpu. Stop service and all is good  (XPSP2). Works fine on a vista box
 A: havent seen this happening. Please file a bug with  clear repro steps and we'll take a look.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Do you have any idea when Beta 2 is  coming?
 A: We're working hard but can't talk dates  yet.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: when can we expect a x64 release of  ie7?
 A: We are planning to include x64 support by the beta  2 release of the stand-alone IE7.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: any new on the "tabbed browsing" experience (e.g.  menu bar outside of tabs)?
 A: The experience in the first beta is pretty basic as  we have been concentrating on getting the infrustructure in place so that we can  build a great user experience on top of that. You'll certainly see an updated  user experience as we get furhter along with the project.
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: Is there support for installing IE7 alongside IE6,  for easy site testing?
 A: We currently dont have plans for installing IE7  alongside IE6.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: We are getting a monthly build of Vista (almostly  monthly). So will we be getting a monthly build for IE7 too? 
 A: No, sorry! We are currently working on a plan to  release a Beta 1 refresh prior to Beta 2, but we will not be able to provide  monthly updates.
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: Please allow me to move the toolbars (including the  address bar)
 A: Thanks for the feedback. As mentioned before, there  are going to be changes to the UI for great user experience.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Does anybody know the newsgroup addresses for IE7  beta and Windows Vista Beta
 A: The news server is betanews.microsoft.com. There  are two newsgroups. "ie" and "ie_on_xpsp2"
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Why cann't IE download a file direct to the  selected folder, instead of putting it in the tempfolder first ?
 A: because it has to look at the file and give user  information about the file before asking them to make the decision to save or  not.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Can we set up more the one home page with  tabs?
 A: We're hoping to supply this later in the project.  As I have said the first beta is a basic experience as we focused on  infrastrutucture. We have lot of work to do 
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: What do you think about making tabs in IE7 movable,  so we can change order of them?
 A: Thanks for the feedback. We will be making changes  for better user experience.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Will IE7 has the ability to EASILY add plugins, so  I can have my mouse gestures, adblock, session saver, etc with IE7? Tab-browsing  only is not enough for me to move from other browsers.
 A: IE 7 has an Add on manager that should allow you to  easily add in your plugins
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: I raised a suggestion (bug #4724) to improve the  history in IE, which was closed as "Won't Fix". Is this because the history  functionality is already being changed, or will we be left with the same history  functionality as IE6?
 A: The suggestion was looked over by the product team,  but unfortunately is isn't something that we can address in this  release.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: I dont see much change from IE6 and IE7 except UI,  what do you think? Did you made many changes?
 A: There is plenty of change. The first beta is  focused on infrastructure so many of the changes are not so obvious at this  stage. There is a great focus around security in IE7 some of which is obvious  and some not so obvious. We also have some enhancements to HTML adn CSS on the  way as well.
Jason Watters (Expert):
Jason Watters (Expert):
Q: Were is the Refresh Toolbar Button in  IE7?
 A: In the beta 1 build it is on the right end of the  address bar. The stop button also shares that space in the beta 1 build. We have  received a lot of great feedback on our UI and are working on UI improvements  for Beta 2 and RTM.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Can you please share status on 24-bit PNG support  and fixing (read: removing) the underscore hack (CSS) such that it can be used  to target IE6? (e.g., _padding: 0; /* only IE6 would see this */) Thank you to  the whole team! Looking forward to Beta 2.
 A: I am sorry, I need more info to answer your  questions. I am not familiar with that particular issue. Can you provide me with  a little more background/context
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Is nonstandard charcters going to be supported in  IE7? For instance http://www.åre.se which works fine in Opera
 A: I assume you are talking about International Domain  Name support in IE7. Yes, we plan to support those.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: I dont see much change from IE6 and IE7 except UI,  what do you think? Did you made many changes?
 A: Yes, we have made a number of changes involving  both the UI and on the back-end. Features such as the phishing tool that is  currently built into the IE7 beta for Win XP SP2 make it much easier to identify  potentially harmful sites and avoid possible identify theft. Our tabbed browsing  makes surfing the net even by allowing you to view multiple web sites without  losing valuable desktop real estate. 
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will we be seeing Parental Controls in IE 7 for XP  SP2?
 A: We are currently discussing this within the  team.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: top three best features of the next  release?
 A: 1 - Security. Especially Protected mode in Windows  Vista. 2 - Tabs and the great new User experience that you'll see in beta 2. 3 -  Printing that really works instead of cutting off the right hand side of the  page. 
That's a personal list of the things I like
That's a personal list of the things I like
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will there be a new build of Windows Vista during  the this years PDC (2005)?
 A: Yes.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Do you plan to support XHTML in IE7? I hope you  will not add support for application/xhtml+xml unless you truly treat it as  XHTML is supposed to be treated (different DOM, events, CSS rules, all of  it).
 A: We are not going to get to full XHTML support in  this release. As a result we will not accept the application/xhtml+xml as that  would be tantamount to telling a lie and very unhelpful.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: I had to uninstall IE7 B1 because of a huge memory  leak, what's being done to correct that?
 A: The IE performance team is working hard to analyse  performance issues such as CPU and memory usage. We are dedicated to fixing  these isues and making IE7 a performant and competitive product for our  customers. Any assistance you could provide would be greatly appreciated. If you  could provide details of the memory leak, we will investigate  immediately.
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: Will there be more customisations options for  tabbed browsing? If so what could implemented?
 A: We are still working on fit and finish for tabbed  browsing. PLease keep an eye on the IE blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/.
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Vishu: But it does still put it in the temp folder,  even after a select to download and given a location to save to, specially  larger files take a lot of time to replace after completing.
 A: because its the same codepath. this is good  feedback.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: What is the latest build released to  testers?
 A: The latest build of stand-alone IE7 available to  testers is the Beta 1 build (version 5112).
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
  Q: will it be possible to "skin" the  browser?
 A: No sorry, we currently dont have any plans to  implement such a functionality.
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Vishu: You say "because it has to look at the file  and give user information about the file before asking them to make the decision  to save or not". All it has too look at are HTTP response headers. Sorry, but  this is not the answer. Can someone try again? 
 A: no it has to look at more than just the http  headers.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Will Microsoft's Offline E-Learning reader be  likely to work with IE7 soon OR can IE7 and IE6 be used in parallel by any work  around
 A: We'll check into that app. You cannot use IE6 and  IE7 in parrallel. The most common issue we are hitting with compatibility is  that of the User Agent string being checked by sites that refuse IE7. See http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/01/459541.aspx
MarkL (Moderator):  
 Q: is this chat under NDA or can we blog about  it?
 A: This chat is not under NDA. You may post to your  blog.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Why do you believe that Internet Explorer will  still matter in the next 2 to three years with popular alternatives out there on  the market, especially with the success of FireFox gaining a whopping 75 million  users?
 A: While our competitors do hold a noted share of the  browsing market, we are sure that IE7 will always be relevant due to the  integration between all of our products as well as new features. Some of the new  features we are integrating into the next generation of IE are advanced security  elements like our phishing tool. Also our adoption of industry standards such as  tabbed browsing, not to mention the number of developers that specifically  develop .NET certified pages that are designed specifically for IE. All in all,  there will always be people who prefer certain browsers (there are still  hundreds of thousands of people who choose AOL) but we are sure that by the time  of release we will have a far more feature rich application than Firefox can  offer. Thanks for your question and I hope this helps address some of your  concerns! 
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: will IE7 be included in XP SP3?
 A: Our current plan is to continue to ship IE6 on  XPSP3, but IE7 will be supported on XPSP3.
James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Will IE7 meet the ACID2 test?
 A: Chris Wilson made a post in the IEBlog in July  about this subject.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Is the localized filename sorting implemented? The  filenames aren't sorted properly in Norwegian culture.
 A: Sorry, I'm not sure that I completely understand  your question. Is this in regards to Windows Vista or IE7?
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Can you please share status on 24-bit PNG support  and fixing (read: removing) the underscore hack (CSS) such that it can be used  to target IE6? (e.g., _padding: 0; /* only IE6 would see this */) Thank you to  the whole team! Looking forward to Beta 2.
 A: Transparent PNGs are now natively supported in Beta  1 and will continue to be supported in Beta2 and the RC. 
James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Will IE7 meet the ACID2 test?
 A: Chris Wilson, Lead Program Manager for IE Core said  the following in the IEBlog in July:
"Ive seen a lot of comments asking if we will pass the Acid2 browser test published by the Web Standards Project when IE7 ships. Ill go ahead and relieve the suspense by saying we will not pass this test when IE7 ships. The original Acid Test tested only the CSS 1 box model, and actually became part of the W3C CSS1 Test Suite since it was a fairly narrow test  but the Acid 2 Test covers a wide set of functionality and standards, not just from CSS2.1 and HTML 4.01, selected by the authors as a wish list of features theyd like to have. Its pointedly not a compliance test (from the Test Guide: Acid2 does not guarantee conformance with any specification). As a wish list, it is really important and useful to my team, but it isnt even intended, in my understanding, as our priority list for IE7."
"Ive seen a lot of comments asking if we will pass the Acid2 browser test published by the Web Standards Project when IE7 ships. Ill go ahead and relieve the suspense by saying we will not pass this test when IE7 ships. The original Acid Test tested only the CSS 1 box model, and actually became part of the W3C CSS1 Test Suite since it was a fairly narrow test  but the Acid 2 Test covers a wide set of functionality and standards, not just from CSS2.1 and HTML 4.01, selected by the authors as a wish list of features theyd like to have. Its pointedly not a compliance test (from the Test Guide: Acid2 does not guarantee conformance with any specification). As a wish list, it is really important and useful to my team, but it isnt even intended, in my understanding, as our priority list for IE7."
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: One thing that I strongly dislike about IE 7 in its  current incarnation, is that a user cannot move the address bar. This is an  annoyance. Is there any plans to change this?
 A: We are looking at an updated user experience to be  delivered later in the project cycle. One thing we are concerned about is  spoofing address bars as a serious security issue so it may be that we decide  this should be fixed and always on in the browser so that users have a  consistent place to look and check that they really are on the web site that  they think they are on.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: What is being done to make activex work as a  standard user?
 A: What do you mean as a standard user? Do you mean as  a user without admin privledges?
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Is the removal of IE 7 going to be made easier, I  installed IE7 using a domain account, removed computer from domain and could not  remove IE7?
 A: That sounds like a bug that you should report if  you haven't already.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: The phishing filter will be present in the next  build of Windows Vista or we will have to wait until Beta 2?
 A: I'm not 100% sure of the refresh schedule for the  Vista beta builds, but it will be in the beta 2 build for sure.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Do you realize that people can download IE 7 from a  non ms web site? Do these people have permission to redistribute your download?  http://www.soft32.com/download-Internet_Explorer-997-5.html
 A: You should send an email to lhabuse@microsoft.com  and we will have someone look into it. 
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: I want to hear an honest answer from the IE Team on  this, why do "you" personally believe that FireFox has 75 million users and why  do you think those possibly former users of IE got fed up with your browser?  
 A: Dude, They may have that number of downloads but  that is very different from having that number of users 
 Recent stats actually show Firefox growth has slowed and is  even declining. We're looking forward to supplying a great user experience in  IE7.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Why does IE7 beta 1 stick a B in the user agent  string? That breaks machine.config  
 <case match="^Mozilla[^(]*\(compatible; MSIE (?'version'(?'major'\d+)(?'minor'\.\d+) (?'letters'\w*))(?'extra'.*)">
A: See some recent documentation we published about  this at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/aboutuseragent.asp
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Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: One very very handy feature I've seen in another  browser (opera) allows the user to reload the page automatically every X seconds  (user choice)..... Are microsoft implementing this in IE7? This is very useful  in certain situations.
 A: No Sorry! We currently dont have any plans to  implement this functionality. Thanks for your input!
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will IE7 updates introduce language  translation?
 A: Not sure if this answers your question or not, but  IE7 will be fully localized to all the same languages the Windows XP SP2 and  Windows Server 2003 SP1 are localized to. We will also provide support for MUI  and LIP languages on those platforms.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: I read and hear how web developers complain that  Microsoft is not doing enough to support and integrate appropriate standards in  Internet Explorer, whats your answer to this?
 A: We are working very hard to address web developers  pain points in this release. Take a look at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx that  describes the work we are undertaking here.
James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Will an RSS aggregator/reader be built-in as the  newsreader was in Outlook Express?
 A: IE7 has an RSS aggregator already implemented,  however it is still in beta and doesn't work 100% yet.
MarkL (Moderator):  
 Q: Why isn't the guest chat ever included in the  transcripts? I feel jiped from earlier chat sessions 
 A: We generally only post the Expert Chat, however the  experts may post the guest chat in the future. 
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Will future releases of IE 7.0 include the ability  to open tabs back to the last web site (IE, you accidently close a tab and want  to reopen it where it was before the close).
 A: Thanks for the feedback. We are always trying to  improve the user experience and will take a look at this  suggestion.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Why does IE7 tab strip by default contain a clunky  looking blank tab? Seems like a strange way to implement a reserved space for  new tabs, is this just a beta 1 bug?
 A: We're not done with the UI in beta 1 . I think  you'll like what you see in the second beta and that is when we'll really  appreciate the feedback.
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: When is the beta of IE7 for Windows Server 2003  going to be available?
 A: Sorry! Can't talk dates yet. We are planning to  implement support for Server 2003 SP1 by beta2.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: In the next five to ten years, where does the  Internet Explorer Team see itself, the Internet and the role of the  browser?
 A: Where we see ourselves individually in the next  decade or so I can't comment on as I'm not in a position to speak for anyone  other than myself. 
 However, the internet has grown from a niche to a true global  marketplace. Designers and developers are continually adding network and  internet access features to a growing variety of devices from the home to the  workplace and even to your appliances and vehicles. We forsee internet access  ultimately becoming a standard of life like radio and television here in  America. To address the 3rd part of your question, we see ourselves at the  forefront of this new era of communication and are already working to help bring  access to the world. As more and more of our products from our Office suite to  games and utilities all start using more online features, we are developing IE  with this in mind. Thanks for your help in the beta program and I hope I've been  helpful in answering your questions! 
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: How big is the install package for  IE7?
 A: The stand-alone package of IE7 is currently around  10mb.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: When will IE7 Be released as RC1 + 2 
 A: Probably after we get to the second beta 
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will we see any localized builds of IE7 during this  beta?
 A: We are planning to release English, German, and  Japanese for Beta 2.
James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: how can you activate windows w/o internet access?  we're behind a corporate firewall and activation is failing...
 A: Activation is internet-only for Beta 1, but my  understanding is that phone activation will likely be active in Beta  2.
Please note that this is a chat room for the Internet Explorer 7 Beta, so please limit your questions to that subject. Thanks!
Please note that this is a chat room for the Internet Explorer 7 Beta, so please limit your questions to that subject. Thanks!
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: IE7 beta 1 seems kind of buggy, it continually  starts sucking over 40MB ram just viewing simple web pages, then when I 'close'  it, the thing still sticks around as a task I have to manually kill 
 Is this a known bug?
 A: I'm nto sure we have a specific issue on this. Are  there specific websites where this happens? It's certainly worth checking if you  have any extensions installed that may be affecting perf and memory usage.  getting feedback on compatibility is really useful at this time.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Are there a lot of changes improvements for using  mshtml.dll. And if so, when can we expect documentation for that?
 A: We will be reviewing and updating our documentation  in the near future to make sure we are addressing our customer needs. Any  feedback you can provide on where we should focus our efforts would be greatly  appreciated.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: FYI I have been looking for 3+ weeks for Vista and  IE7 on betaplace, I would like to suggest a link from there to the Connect site.  I just found the download 30 minutes ago thanks to the betaplace support alias  
 A: Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I  will follow up with the Tech Beta team on this.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: When Will We have the next build to test? -- it  seems that this build has been bugged as far as we can go and we are waiting to  see what has been fixed.
 A: While I can't give any specifics, rest assured,  it's on it's way. 
 Also, now that the initial surge of bugs and feature requests  have been filed, we are getting a lot more technical bugs so the program is  still quite active and helpful!
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
  Q: Why don't you limit the number of users in these  kinds of chat rooms? There are too many messages flying around and too many  people!!
 A: We have a large beta and try to accomodate as many  people as possible.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Will IE7 be supported on the MAC?
 A: No, we no longer support IE for Apple.  
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Can Windows Vista beta 1 support WinFS beta  1?
 A: We will be releasing German and Japanese in  addition to English for Beta 2.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Will IE7 featuring the download  manager?
 A: We wanted to get to this in IE7 but I don't think  we will as other work is getting priority. There will certainly be lots of work  for us still to get to in IE8 
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: is it possible for IE7 tab browsing being  implemented into Windows Explorer?
 A: No, Sorry! 
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Is it possible to see the status on submitted bugs  against Vista? I submitted a bug that affects the app I develop, so it would be  nice to know what's up with it (and others I will be submitting)
 A: Bug report status is shown up on the Microsoft  Connect http://connect.microsoft.com website. It is possible that your  report hasn't been addressed yet. You can also post to the newsgroups we monitor  and participate in those as well.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Are there plans for an IE7 IEAK? If so will IE6  managment and deployment be through the same tool, or will I have to use legacy  IEAK6 for Windows 2000 and older clients and IEAK 7 for  XP/WS2003/R2?
 A: There are plans for an IE7 IEAK. Additional detils  are still being finalized.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: I can't not install IE7 beta1 in a non-English  version Windows XP SP2, how about beta2?
 A: We will be releasing English, German, and Japanese  for IE7 beta 2.
James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Won't usability be a problem for unexperienced  users if you follow the minimalistic UI route?
 A: Numerous usability studies have shown that a  simpler user interface is easier for unexperienced users to grasp, which is why  we've been focusing the GUI for IE7 towards a more minimalistic route, while  still keeping much of the advanced functionality you've come to expect from the  Internet Explorer browser. Please note, also, that the GUI for IE7 right now is  not "set in stone", and may change as this beta program  progresses.
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: Will Internet Explorer 7 support custom themes or  styles? 
 A: No, sorry! No current plans for doing  that.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: What is the most innovative work done in  IE7?
 A: Of all the work we are doing I'd have to say  Protected Mode see http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/06/09/427410.aspx for a  blog post on this. This work is pioneering in terms of security and needs the  security infrastrcture in Windwos Vista so unfortunately this is a Vista only  feature. There's plenty of other great security work that will apply to IE7 on  XP SP2 though see http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/08/03/447207.aspx
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Are you adding any tools for web  developers?
 A: We're looking at this. Stay tuned over the coming  weeks.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will there be an own MUI pack for the IE7 in the  final release or is it enough to have the Windows XP MUI pack  installed?
 A: We will need to provide the IE7 MUI resources for  Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 SP1 MUI users. We are still working on the  final distribution plan for the stand-alone IE7 MUI resources.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: What are the specific area's do you want testers to  focus on in B1?
 A: I would love to see everyone in the beta program  focusing on usability issues. If there are some problems that cause a lack of  functionality or a loss of data, crashes, hangs, etc. Those are the nasty ones.  Things like performance enhancements, look and feel, external issues from  outside develoeprs (ibm.com/hp.com having small fonts, yahoo mail not  recognizing IE as a current browser, etc, etc) and the like are firstly, VERY  well documented already ( 
 ) and secondly, things that are already planned to be worked  out further down the road as we near completion. I love the enthusiasm of  everyone on the Beta program but it can be a little overwhelming when I have 55  copies of the same bug about a web site that hasn't added our beta to it's list  of "supported browsers"... 
 Thanks for your question! 
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: What are you future plans for CSS  support
 A: See http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx for  details of the great work we are doign to improve CSS in IE7
James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: In IE7 when closing if you have more than one tab  can you put up an Alert saying you have multiple tabs open, etc?
 A: That is a pretty good suggestion! I'd recommend you  submit that as a bug using the Microsoft Beta Client so that the suggestion is  actionable for us. (Meaning we can actually track it and work on  it.)
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: well, i sure feel very alooooooone out here... can  i at least find out when the beta testers will get ie7/vista? any eta on start  of beta?
 A: Right now we can't give out a specific date, but it  is coming soon. Hang in there. In the future we are targeting OS releases about  once a month. IE7 for XPSP2 will be release less often between now and beta  2.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will we see a new build of IE7 during PDC  2005?
 A: We are not planning to provide a new build of  stand-alone IE7 at PDC. There will be a new Vista build.
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: If you type a path in IE7 you open a new  explorer.... Why not tabbed Windows Explorer? Drag and drop to the tabs  etc.....
 A: Thanks for your input, but we have plans for  implementing that.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Are there plans for tuning javascrpt and dhtml  performance in IE7?
 A: The IEperf team is comitted to driving IE to be the  most performant browser. Javascript and dhtml performance are two of several  avenues we are investigating in this ongoing effort.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
  Q: What are your plans for RSS? It doesn't seem to  really be working yet.
 A: The first beta has a coupel of minor issues but we  are very very excited by RSS see http://blogs.msdn.com/rssteam/ for blog of the RSS part of the  team.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Jason Watters: "We are planning to release English,  German, and Japanese for Beta 2." Why MS always choose that languages for  betatesting? Just curious.
 A: That is a good question that I unfortunately do not  know the answer to.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Are any extras planned concerning Tabbed-browsing  (like Maxthon's), mouse gestures, double-click to close, etc. ?
 A: We already have some features integrated with the  tabs like center/scroll wheel clicking to close tabs and we are indeed planning  quite a few more. At this point I can't comment on specifics, but more features  are coming.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
  Q: What is Microsoft doing to encourage developers to  start developing for 64 versions of IE? So far there has been a high lack in  support for components such as Flash Player and active x controls?
 A: This is somethign we are hoping to raise awareness  about in the future. I think it is going to become a big issue as 64 bit  processors become more common. If anyone is writing an extension for IE please  start to build a 64 bit version as well
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: Could there be an option to have the tabs on the  bottom? Currently when switching applications using the taskbar, I have to move  to the bottom - to switch tabs, I have to go to the top of the screen. Long ways  for the mouse ...
 A: Thanks for the input. We dont have any plans to  implement this right now.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Can we get an IE 7 t-shirt ? 
 
 A: Maybe if the IE team sends us some goodies to send  to beta customers and keeping in mind international export resctrictions. 
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Will IE7 still drop the status bar whenever you  make a new window?
 A: The status bar shoudl be there. Do you not see  it?
Anurag  Jain [MSFT] (Expert):  
 Q: Is Windows Update working with IE7 yet? The first  thing I tried after installing IE7 was to connect to Windows Update, and it  seemed to hang IE7.
 A: Windows Update with IE7 should be fixed now. If you  find any issues, please let us know. 
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Q: Will IE 7.0 fix the major HTTP compression  errors that we see in IE 6.0? 
 A: We are making some HTTP compression improvements in  IE7
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Is it possible to disable anti-phishing stuff  ?
 A: Yes. Under the tools menu there is a Phishing  filter menu.
James Adams [MS] (Expert):
James Adams [MS] (Expert):
Q: When was beta 1 released? And why wouldn't this be  found here? http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx
 A: The beta program for IE7 was launched on the 27th  of July as an invitation-only technical beta program. Since it is invitation  only, posting it at that URL would have confused more users who would have  expected to just be able to download the beta version from the public Microsoft  Internet Explorer website. Also, by posting it as part of the Microsoft Connect  site, we were able to integrate the beta program with our own development tools,  allowing a more streamlined beta process overall.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Will be a Outlook Express 7? Is The same team that  is responsible for IE is responsible for OE?
 A: No the OE team is entirely separate to the IE team  and is working on an updated version for Windows Vista. 
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: When will we see build for Windows XP  x64?
 A: Windows XP for x64 has already been shipped. Both  for Pro and Server.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: I noticed that I can't open my Yahoo Mailbox with  IE 7 are you going to make it work with Yahoo?
 A: This is likely an issue with Yahoo not recognizing  the new IE7 UserAgent String. Check out this post from the IE blog for a  workaround: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/01/459541.aspx
We are actively working on identifying these types of issues and working with web sites and developers to resolve them.
We are actively working on identifying these types of issues and working with web sites and developers to resolve them.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Will IE7 (for XP) ship with .Net framework  2?
 A: No it will not include and .NET Framework stuff and  it has no dependencies on the .NET Framework.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Will Microsoft Update be support by a 64-bit  version of IE7 or will we have to continue to use a 32-bit version?
 A: That is a Microsoft Update question that we can't  address here.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Quotes: "Our chat today is about Longhorn Beta"  also "We would like to invite all Microsoft Windows Vista and IE7 technical  beta". So please don't discard Vista questions with ("this is a chat room for  the Internet Explorer 7 Beta"
. Thanks.
 A: We are under the Longhorn Beta chat but this chat  is specifically for IE7. We want to isolate this so that we the IE team can  focus on the issues concerning this product. If we had an open discussion about  all of the beta, we'd have to have a lot more developers in here as well as it'd  be much more difficult to address your issues and questions. When you first  signed on, the topic specified was IE7 and sorry for any confusion or irritation  from this but we need to keep it focused as best we can.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Jason, the localized sorting was initially Vista,  but I later asked a question regarding IE7 and Vista sorting  differently
 A: This chat is intended to be specific to IE7 and not  Vista so I don't have an answer for you on the first question. I'll try to find  your other question.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Regarding the top three features from Dave, where  is RSS support? Is this not a best feature?
 A: There are so many great new features it is  difficult to choose. RSS is really important and definitely is up amongst the  top features 
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: SamW: I think he meant will we get an IE7 build for  XP x64?
 A: Yes, by beta 2 we will have this.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: why aren't vista and ie 7 newsgroups provided via  webnews. my isp blocks nntp port so i can't access nntp newsgroups
 A: Unfortunately I don't know the answer to this but I  will follow up with the Tech Beta team.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: In Windows XP SP2, the IE Accessibility option  "Ignore colors on this web page" and "Use my colors" was broken (it uses default  colors always). A QFE was released to fix it, but as of IE7 Beta 1, the problem  was still evident. Are you going to fix this?
 A: I'll check but all the QFEs applied to IE6 shoudl  be rolling through to IE7.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: If the FireFox offered to merge with IE Team, would  you guys do it? 
 A: Due to different development styles, completely  different architecture and such, I don't think that would be a really workable  situation. But maybe if they were willing to bring the punch and pie. 
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: Are Microsoft focusing a lot more on security in  Vista and IE7 to prevent the mass amount of updates that we have encountered  with win 2k and winxp and ie6
 A: Yes, Microsoft and IE are dedicated to proding a  secure cumputing experience for our corporate and home customers and to reducing  the amount of time our customers have to spend on security  updates.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: If there was a way to search for previously  submitted bugs from the MS Beta Client, you'd get fewer duplicates. It is  sometimes too difficult to switch between connect.microsoft.com and the Beta  client.
 A: This isn't something the MBC will do, but you do  have a good point. We would like to have better MBC and MS Connect integration  in the future.
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Would an expert please consider answering my IPv6  questions regarding IE7 please?
 A: can you repeat the question?
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: How will IE7 improve on Standards so that coding  issues ex. display errors between IE and Firefox be addressed?
 A: Please see http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx for  our work on standards in this release. The team is working really hard on  this.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: How does the rebranding of IE7 as Windows only  affect Pocket PC Mobile devices and embedded OS's?
 A: It doesn't affect it at all. Pocket PC and embedded  are both Windows versions.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Q. My company/team got the invitation to  participate in beta 1; when we went to download the disk image we got a message  saying that it was closed. We really need to test our software with it. What's  the best way to get the beta at this point?
 A: You can send mail to lhbeta@microsoft.com for  access problems to the Connect website.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will IE7 include a new user interface, style or  even new buttons?
 A: Yes, the UI for IE7 is quite different from  previous versions of IE. Please use the beta and let us know what you like and  dislike about the new UI/style/buttons.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: will their be support in .NET for IE7 so  applications written in .NET can use IE7 functions fully?
 A: .NET apps can use IE functions today using interop.  In the forthcoming release of .NET has some great enhancements to make this  easier as well.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: is there any plans to release a version of IE7 beta  for Windows Server 2003?
 A: Yes, by our beta 2 release.
Peter  Gurevich (Expert):  
 Q: For Vista wouldn't you require to change the  rendering engine to emit Avalon?
 A: The IE7 rendering engine is built on legacy codee  so does not require Avalon. Future versions of IE may use some of the new  rendering technolgies developed by Avalon 
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: This may be related to the "memory leak" question  raised earlier, but are there plans afoot to squash leaks instigated by circular  references? See http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/02/javascript_memo.html  for context. Thanks!
 A: See http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/06/21/431376.aspx for  some great advice aroudn this.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: In early builds of Longhorn, IE had a Download  Manager, however the current IE7 beta does not. Will a Download Manager make its  way back in?
 A: Download Manager will not be included in the IE7  release.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Still have not heard anything regarding RSS  support. Do you plan to expand RSS support in future releases? If so, please  elaborate.
 A: Hi, take a look at http://blogs.msdn.com/rssteam/ for details on RSS support. We  are really excited about this.
Vishu (Expert):   
 Q: Vishu, I asked whether IE7 would be able to access  IPv6 web pages without using literal addresses with brackets, or would they be  needed. Additionally, what differences are there between IE6 and IE7 for  IPv6?
 A: they will be needed.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Jason, will the new build be made available to  current beta testers of Windows Vista?
 A: Yes. If/when we release a beta 1 refresh build it  will go to current tech beta customers through the same distribution mechanism  that you get beta builds of Vista through.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Will Internet Explorer 7 be released this year?  
 A: Sorry, no comments on schedule specifics.  :-)
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Will the version of IE 7 for XP SP2 be any  different compared to Windows Vista's IE7?
 A: The two versions will be predominantly the same  with a few areas where we can take advantage of Windows Vista specific  funcitonality such as Protected Mode http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/06/09/427410.aspx which  was known as "Low Rights" until a recent name change.
Jessep  Bangham [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: Where did the "GO" button go? I can't see it on my  system.
 A: The go button has been replaced with a space-saving  context sensitive button connected at the right to the address bar. It's an  arrow for "Go", while a page is loading it turns into a "stop" sign and after a  page is loaded it becomes a "refresh" icon. We are trying to make it so that you  don't have to continually mouse to different areas for a related set of  functions. Hope this helps! 
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
  Q: will there be another IE chat session for IE in  beta 2?
 A: Yes, we will definitely have more IE chat sessions  through the beta cycle. We are also working on putting together some IE feature  focus events, also arranged through the beta program.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: when I do javascript:window.open in IE7, will it  open a new window or tab? or will it depend on whether i specify a window size?  or is it configurable? or will there be javascript:tab.open()?? 
 James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: iam repeting my previous question, will ie7 include  grammar checking while typing.
 A: The grammar-checking engine is currently a feature  of the Office Suite. Since we cannot guarantee that every installation of IE7  will be on a computer that also has Office installed, it is not feasible at this  time for IE7 to utilize that feature.
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: Dave, thanks! I have read the article regarding the  workaround. I'm wondering if IE7 will be able to squash this out-of-the-box  instead. Appreciate the response and support.
 A: We are working on it 
Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator):  
 Q: build for X64.. meaning IE7 build for x64, not OS  x64..;-)
 A: Yes x64 for XP is planned to be  supported.
Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Did you do any compatibility testing with any AT  apps?
 A: Yes, we are working with a number of Assistive  Technology vendors through the beta program.
James  Adams [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: That link http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/aboutuseragent.asp  does not appear to work.
 A: I was able to just now click the link in your  question and it came up fine for me.
SamW  [MS] (Expert):  
 Q: 
 The invitation to this chat said "Windows Vista". Will there  be a real Vista chat sometime?
 A: We have found that it is better to keep the topic  of conversation narrow. Also, we like to pair up the experts with the topic and  it's hard to get experts for the whol OS all at once.
SamW  [MS] (Expert): It has been great chatting with  everyone. We plan on doing more of these sorts of things as the Longhorn beta  program goes on.
 Dave  Massy [MSFT] (Moderator): Wow. This has been a  really busy chat. Sorry we have to go now but thanks for dropping by. We'll try  and be in teh newsgroups as well.
 Jason  Watters (Expert):  
 Q: Any update on Win2000 support for IE7?
 A: IE7 will not be supported on the Windows 2000  platform.
SamW  [MS] (Expert): See you all again  soon.
- posted by Ben Winzenz @ 1:09 PM
